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"Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing." (granfury) 09/08/2017 at 07:25 • Filed to: None

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The runway seems a tad short for the aircraft I’m flying from ORD to SNA; I figure that we’ll end up in Newport Back Bay. Maybe they’ll get it stopped in time but it will be a museum piece since they’ll never be able to take off in 5,700 feet. All this on an aircraft that AA doesn’t have in their fleet - must be a code share...

WilliamsSW > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 07:45

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Lol that aircraft is verboten here at ORD, too.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > WilliamsSW 09/08/2017 at 07:48

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That’s somewhat surprising, but your runways might have a better chance of accommodating one if necessary, like in an emergency. No good could come from landing one at SNA.

Aremmes > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 07:56

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There exist means for getting a big fat turd in the air.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 07:57

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For a second i only saw the MD88 and was thoroughly confused.

WilliamsSW > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 07:58

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The runways have always been plenty long enough, but weren’t able to handle the weight. I think that’s been fixed with the construction. The issue now is terminal access really.

My one close up encounter with the A380 was at Oshkosh (6,000 feet IIRC?) so it can be done! With an empty plane...

Mini Guy- Now has a 4Runner > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 08:22

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You may want to check your emails...

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 09/08/2017 at 08:34

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Fun fact: When an airplane dumps fuel prior to making an emergency landing, it doesn’t do so to lessen the fire danger. It does it to lose weight. Airliners take off heavier than they can land, since the fuel will be burned off during the flight.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 09:03

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I would like to see that in person. It would probably take up two gates and block out the sun.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 09/08/2017 at 09:22

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Yup - the landing involves an impact, the takeoff shouldn’t. I believe that’s the reason why there’s a difference there.

I’m sure you’ve seen video of that A380 landing at KOSH - it was a really tight squeeze, and taxiing was not a simple task, either—

WilliamsSW > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 09:29

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Also, sorry to disappoint you, but it’s a 737-800 (aka 738) - my guess is someone missed the ‘7' when entering the equipment type. :).

Oh, and I just looked - runway 36 at KOSH is actually 8,000 feet - and that was dicey for an empty 380!

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 09/08/2017 at 09:30

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I’m not sure it’s an impact issue as much as it’s a stopping distance issue.

You mean this video? I had not seen it. The Boeing driver is no fan. The crosswinds aside, I wonder if the Airbus driver wanted to get that plane down NOW since he new he didn’t have much run out room. One thing is his favor, though, is that the plane was empty.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 09/08/2017 at 09:38

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Yup - that’s the one. He definitely wanted to get the airplane planted on the ground early, and the hell with the crab angle, too. I was at Oshkosh that year and have some pics under the plane, but can’t find them (~3 phones ago I think). I wasn’t there for the arrival or departure though.

The impact issue really does matter - - I’m not sure of the status now (a lot of construction has taken place in recent years), but originally KORD couldn’t handle the A380, despite having a 12,000' runway. Part of it was gate parking, but the weight of the Airbus was the real headache—

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > WilliamsSW 09/08/2017 at 10:23

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738 - 388. Close.

I once had a station manager tell me my billing was way off because they didn’t fly a 763. I wondered how long she’d been in the industry since 767-300s were the only widebodies in their fleet, and the only aircraft type they had that flew to the mainland...

WilliamsSW > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 09/08/2017 at 10:49

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A 763 is just 4 shorter than a 767, right? :)